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Raichana
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i hear this debate everywhere... which do you prefer... when the Manga comes out and the anime is created later (for example something like Deathnote) or when the anime comes out then the manga follows (i think Evangelion does this but i'm not 100% sure)
do you like if the Anime and manga are practically the exact same or do you enjoy when they tell a similar story just change things up to keep you guessing...
what about when Video games get translated into Manga... do you think there just trying to get every cent from you possible? or are they good sometimes?
i only have two series based on games... Disgaea 1&2 and Kingdom hearts I - II and the first disgaea manga was okay... an interesting take on the world... but the second season is really quite enjoyable... Kingdom hearts is okay... it's getting better with time...
i have read the DMC 1 manga... and it's just a piece of crap... not even worth the paper it;s printed on...
so yes... whats your opinion?
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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:02 pm |
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Valtiel
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I don't particularly care which order they come out in, as long as they're different enough to keep me interested. I don't see the point of watching an anime, and then reading the exact same thing in the form of a graphic novel. It's redundant.
As for video games translated into manga, it depends on the situation. I'm anxiously awaiting Volume 3 of Devil May Cry (which was worth every scrap of paper it was printed on, by the way ). The action and dark ambience of the games translate into exactly the kind of manga I like to read. On the other hand, I've read the first two volumes of Kingdom Hearts and I really couldn't care less for them. All they really did was regurgitate what I'd already done in the game with absurdly cute animation, and that's just not for me.
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| Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:07 pm |
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Raichana
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I agree... i hate when the two are the same story... just need to change it up a bit and i'm happy
I've not played the game though so thats probably why i disliked the manga... i did give it to someone who enjoyed it a lot so it has a good home
and yeah the first season ok KH manga was crap... but the others are much better... deviating just a little... and i didn't play CoM so that part of the story was completely new to me.
i want the next disgaea 2 manga >< it's getting pretty good
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| Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:15 pm |
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Yeah . . . I'm like that with anything: book-to-film translations and vice versa, game-to-film translations and vice versa, movie remakes . . . I just don't see a point in doing something that's already been done exactly the same way it was done the first time. I like to see how different people put their own spin on different things.
When I read the first Devil May Cry manga, I'd only played the first part of the first game (and the manga is based on the third game). I think it's more of a genre preference thing . . . You either like it or you don't.
So it wasn't just me, it actually did suck . . . huh. Though I will admit, the art was ridiculously cute. My friend told me Chain of Memories was much better, too. I'll get around to reading it eventually . . . I started the game, but it couldn't hold my attention. I think it was the card-based battle system.
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| Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:36 pm |
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Raichana
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i know the feeling... i don't think i've ever played a good card battle game... and if someone mentions Baiten Kaitos then i will throw a rant because i hated that game... couldn't get past the first cut scene... but thats another story... as a rule card battles are rarely fun unless your actually playing the game with real cards and real people...
DMC vol 1 was just too corny for me... thats probably what turned me off... still Dante is a badA$$
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| Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:41 pm |
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Yeah, everything DMC has a certain level of corniness and cliche to it. It's just the attitude of the series. I guess you either really like it or you don't . . . Eh, whatever works for you.
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| Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:03 pm |
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Raichana
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I'm sure if i had more exposure to the game i would have been more prepared for it... but in the end it's all good...
i think the reason the disgaea 2 manga is good is because it has the basic story but it is quite different and the art isn't so adorable your eyes bleed.
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| Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:10 pm |
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I think the best example of a video game becoming multimedia is DOT HACK. First a Video Game then a Anime then a manga and novels.
I enjoyed the Anime, first one I watched was DOT HACK Legend of Twilight
Then I got into playing th first video game series that started the franchise.
I never really read any of the books yet.
As far as I can tell they don't repeat the storyline though Twilight Glitch seems to be the main story drive. DOT HACK is well done and doesn't disappoint to much.
FULL METAL ALCHEMIST on the the other hand. I read the manga first and enjoyed reading every page from book 1, book2, book3 ect... The anime in my opinion was a slap in the face to fans and the creator Hiromu Arakawa.
HELLSING read the manga first , hate the anime.
As for a book getting turned into a movie. If I see the movie first getting through a book with the same story line is painful because there is no surprise when reading.
Guess I'm the kind of person that wants the different sources of media to continue the story instead of retelling the same story, setting it in some kind of alternate reality.
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Juu Yukio
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 |  | I think the best example of a video game becoming multimedia is DOT HACK. First a Video Game then a Anime then a manga and novels.
I enjoyed the Anime, first one I watched was DOT HACK Legend of Twilight
Then I got into playing th first video game series that started the franchise.
I never really read any of the books yet.
As far as I can tell they don't repeat the storyline though Twilight Glitch seems to be the main story drive. DOT HACK is well done and doesn't disappoint to much. |
That's a great example, considering all the different forms that Project .hack took. They don't really repeat the storyline, because just about each media form takes place in a different point in time. The only two that I know of that tell the same story is .hack//Legend of the Twilight (where there was an anime adapted from the manga). Just about everything - the animes, the mangas, the games...they all tell different stories.
And, even then, the story is currently being continued in the second "project", .hack Conglomerate, which again has an anime, a manga, a video game series, and a novel.
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Have you seen the OVA? I don't much mind the anime, though I prefer the manga's storyline much better, but I won all 13 episodes on eBay with the first episode of the OVA. It's amazing. Not only is it truer to the manga's storyline, but the way all the characters are designed...my god. It looks JUST like someone had colored and animated the manga.
But, I suppose only some people are into that sort of thing, as some people have said they want storyline changes.
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| Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:35 am |
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Raichana
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i hated the hellsing Anime as well... but i've heard the OVA is amazing and much truer to the manga.
i've wanted to read the manga but i haven't gotten my hands on it yet. still hear it's just so much better.
Nodame Cantabile is an interesting case
it was a manga first, great story and compelling characters... but the anime did something that made it even better... since you could actually hear the music that the orchestra was playing... it just brought a whole new level of wonder. my only problem is that the manga and anime follow each other almost word for word... so if you've seen or read one... you have pretty much seen the other... i wihs they would mix it up a little.
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 |  | i hated the hellsing Anime as well... but i've heard the OVA is amazing and much truer to the manga.
i've wanted to read the manga but i haven't gotten my hands on it yet. still hear it's just so much better. |
Everything you've heard is true. The OVA is mind-blowing for people who are into that sort of stuff (I'm talking, in the first episode when Alucard is reforming via bats, it seriously looks like they took the manga frames, animated & colored them.)
And, yes, the manga is much better. Nazis and Vampires and Dental-Floss-of-Doom, oh my!
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I have seen some episodes of HELLSING but, I prefer the Manga version I only own four of the books done by DMP/ Dark Horse so far but, I'm enjoying reading them and hope to get more. I'll look into the OVA -HERUSHINGU- because the one I watched was Englished Dubbed on YTV and we all know they dumb down everything.
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Juu Yukio
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